downsideup
12 years ago
Its not luck.
Not saying luck isn't a factor in the markets, but, you know, its still only one factor... and its still one that favors the prepared mind.
Just isn't rocket science to look at the charts, and do the DD... and the market an issue trades on when you find it, isn't ever a "determinant"... rather than a source in bias relative to the rest.
Buy low.
You don't get there by picking stocks at their peaks that look great already.
Sell high.
You don't get there by picking stocks that aren't going higher, either because of some factor in what the company is doing to distinguish itself, or because of some rising tide that will lift that boat with others. Ideally, you look for both... before others have it figured out.
This company had and has solid management, with a proven track record...
So, the world's shortest DD checklist:
1. Are the assets real
2. Are the assets connected to a share
3. Can you trust management
Of course, you could add a fourth...
4. Does the chart and their market look timely
I don't care what market they're on... as that has ZERO to do with the bias in the direction in change in the business. You can't uplist to the NASDAQ or the NYSE, if you're already there.
Its the bais in the change occurring that matters, relative to the undertow... not the one time snapshot showing happy faces.
Sink or swim... ?
Well, does management know how to swim ?
downsideup
12 years ago
Charts is charts.
I haven't paid overly close attention lately. Don't know what they've been doing in the business here the last little while. Maybe you won't know that, either, without the right clearance ?
Chart looks like someone's still working the short side here, or back at it, again... but the chart is certainly a bit more interesting now than it was a while back... the last time I looked.
Some nice volatility for traders, for sure. Up 18% today on news earning will be announced on Oct 20... ?
You've noted the move in exchange... so, did you buy it at $8 ?
I still think the buy back at $0.25 (which was like what, $1 on the current chart, post reverse) was a no brainer...
21ZNA9
13 years ago
API Technologies Corp. (OTC Bulletin Board: ATNY) ("API" or the "Company"), a provider of electronic systems, subsystems, RF, and secure solutions for the defense, aerospace, and commercial industries, will list its common stock on the NASDAQ Capital Market effective June 27th, 2011 under the ticker symbol ATNY
downsideup
13 years ago
The stock price history doesn't actually determine whether or not the company is or will be a winner...
The stock price, by itself, also doesn't determine whether or not you are a winner in your evaluation of the company, as that is always based on the results of your evaluation seen in your choices to buy and sell, and the timing of those choices.
If you buy low, and sell high... you win the market battle... which is simple enough, and obvious enough.
In my book, ATNY, the company, is a winner... because of the FACTS re what the company has and what the company is doing, that I see has value. Solid DD proved to me it was a solid company, with good management, and clearly contained risks, and it was quite clearly undervalued by the market when I bought it... and since then it it seems the market agrees.
In my books, ATNY was also a winner on the trade... because of the FACTS re the choices that I made in buying and selling... which are documented here, well enough... that are MORE about the choices made and the timing of them, than about the company.
Split adjusted, from $1 to $7 in less than a year is not bad.
Of course, between then and now, in the last year, you also could have bought it at $7 and sold it recently for a lot less than that. I'm sure many people did just that.
That people DO make bad choices in timing their trades... doesn't mean the company isn't a winner... or that the company is an evil doer perpetrating a fraud.
Those who blame anyone other than themselves for their own bad choices in timing investments... aren't always wrong about their being others in the market who are behaving badly. That doesn't mean anyone who loses money on a trade... is a victim of a scam.
ATNY is pretty clearly NOT a scam... rather than a trusted supplier of components for top secret government programs...
So, while NOT being a scam, if they can ALSO find a way to make MONEY and turn a profit from being a trusted supplier of components for top secret government programs... they'll prove to be a winner... whether you ever make a dime trading the stock or not.
downsideup
13 years ago
Your claim that success in picking the right stocks at the right time is all about luck... is totally bogus... but it certainly explains a lot about what you've been posting here.
I think it says you really don't want to even try to understand how the markets work... and really don't WANT to understand what the professionals do... that makes them win, and you lose.
Of course, it is true that "Millions of people will lose million of dollars thinking of their chance to hit the big one." It is also true that there is almost always someone on the other side of every one of those losing trades who is making money... not losing it. That "Millions of people will lose million of dollars thinking of their chance to hit the big one." will be true whether you are one of the winners or one of the losers.
The market is pretty much neutral in terms of caring about that. The game always has winners and losers. Your choices alone will determine which you will be.
The goal is to educate yourself well enough to be able to compete... to look at companies and be able to sort those that will win, that offer you the ability to take winning positions, from the losers... and that is NOT a function of luck... rather than a function of FACTS and awareness of MARKET BEHAVIOR.
Almost EVERY stock offers you the equal ability to lose money... or make money... only because "prices do change". Think, pick well, and time your trades properly... and you will likely be able to make money more regularly than most, if not consistently. Feel, pick poorly, act without knowing what you are doing, and time your trades improperly... and you will almost assuredly lose money... independent of and no matter the fact that prices will change as they do.
Handicapping company performance... is not rocket science.
Handicapping stock performance... is not rocket science.
Timing trades... is not rocket science.
But, neither is investing without doing your homework about the lack of rocket science.
Most people who spend enough time thinking about investing to bother posting here already know most of the "rules" for investing... many or most simply refuse to learn how to apply them well before playing the game.
Knowing the rules of the game of basketball... just doesn't mean you can play like Michael Jordan... without having equal ability, and equal understanding of and feel for the game...
You CAN outperform the professionals... but, you can't do that by playing the game while thinking there is safety found in doing exactly what they want you to do.
JMHO
downsideup
13 years ago
Hogwash.
Every investor is responsible for making good choices... and responsible for it when they don't.
The "whole picture" doesn't include what happened to other people who made other choices... it ONLY includes those elements in making your own determinations re value, potential, and price when making your own choices... since the bottom line on your brokerage account statement contains no adjustments for what happened based on others choices to buy or sell shares in their accounts.
The long term picture is that those who learn to sort the wheat from the chaff will tend to succeed...
And those who rely on others they pay to tell them what to buy and when to buy it... won't.
Otherwise, I'll agree with you generally that the markets are "a stinking pile of garbage for the SH's" without any restriction as to the market, while pointing out that the market have been MADE into that steaming pile of crap by the "professionals" you suggest we should listen to for investment advice ?
Whether pinksheets or NYSE... I think the markets are about as corrupt as it is possible for them to be without failing outright. It is very possible that they are actually MORE corrupt than that... and have not failed yet, only due to the fact that a fully proper realization of facts is always a lagging function.
I expect we'll have an opportunity to discuss this more... possibly soon... as recognition events occur.
Which fraud by the professionals is it that you think will be the one that finally destroys the markets ?